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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby BigDXLT » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:00 pm

I will try that Faust. I *only* use the join doors as opposed to doors (except for f4, of course, but I use that rarely anymore with concede vote.)
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby BigDXLT » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:14 pm

Wow, yeah, I can confirm that. Less than 4 characters and it happens every time, but NOT when I go to an UWE server.
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby Faust » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:20 pm

It's gonna be hard to not say gg at the end of a match :P
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby Furious Gorge » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:41 pm

Faust wrote:Are you sure you didn't enter 3 characters or less in chat? As I mentioned in the UWE thread, I found this as a new criteria for getting bugged. Time doesn't seem to be an issue for me to get in a bugged state, it comes down to trying to join a team/ready room directly or entering three characters or less in chat.


When I did my tests, I can indeed confirm that I was simply entering 1 letter texts. Good find.

Have any of you experienced the latency issue?
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby BigDXLT » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:43 pm

Maybe UWE just wants us to use good old fashioned proper english.

Good game chaps! Jolly good show!

Haven't seen the latency issues, but haven't paid that much attention either. Will test that as well.
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby BigDXLT » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:46 pm

Just tried chat from web console, no breakage there with short messages. ;)
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby McRiot » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:42 pm

try this:

Locate: C:\Users\UserPC\AppData\Roaming\Natural Selection 2

1. Disable any Mods you have running
2. Delete Workshop Folder
3. Delete or Backup: ConsistencyConfig.json, ConsoleBindings.json, FavoriteServers.json

Don't rebind or enable any mods and just try playing the game for awhile on the OldF Server. If you again get to enjoy the "Bug Experience" (can't chat, get stuck in the commander chair, can't evolve or buy ect.) after those steps have been taken please report here. If you don't have any problems, please report here :)

It may have worked for me but I'm not sure if I was just lucky. Needs more testing.

update:
Alright, this did not work for me after all. after typing "lol" in chat the game breaks, I bug out and my ping jumps to 999

the typing in chat less than 4 characters seems to be the most constant way of breaking the game.

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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby Niteowl » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:44 am

Geez that's the strangest bug ever.
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby Faust » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:56 am

I was just playing on "NSP's house of alien rampage" (or something like that). They had a random and map voting plugin in, which leads me to believe they were running DAK. I could not induce the bug through known methods on that server. I'm quite perplexed on exactly what criteria causes a server to foster a buggy environment.

Edit: So Max (technical director at UWE) responded to that thread:

I tried testing on the OldF server to see if I could reproduce the problem, and I can't even join the teams using "j1" and "j2". Are you getting any errors in your server log? I think you should remove the DAK mod for the time being. Sometimes bugs can come in pairs, so just because removing it didn't eliminate all problems, doesn't mean that it isn't causing any problems.


I'm going to disable DAK later today, or just get Florp to schedule another wipe/restore, this time leaving it in a default state for testing purposes.

Edit: DAK is disabled.

Edit2: Florp has scheduled a wipe/restore at 1:30am
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby McRiot » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:44 pm

Seems the bug is confined to location of the servers (Firewall Issues)

MurphyIdiot: NS2 programmer
We have narrowed this down to a problem in some firewall filtering rules on certain server hosts. We are working with the hosts to resolve the issue now.

Thanks for all the information everyone.


hopefully this is resolved soon...
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby Faust » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:05 pm

McRiot wrote:Seems the bug is confined to location of the servers (Firewall Issues)

MurphyIdiot: NS2 programmer
We have narrowed this down to a problem in some firewall filtering rules on certain server hosts. We are working with the hosts to resolve the issue now.

Thanks for all the information everyone.


hopefully this is resolved soon...


Thanks for the mention McRiot. I'll go forward that to the NFO staffmember I was talking to on the NFO forums.

Edit: I'm not going to bother, as looking at the server ops group Kraze (NFO staff member), working with Brian (UWE staff member), seem to have indeed narrowed the issue down to firewall filters on NFO's end (and possibly other hosts who use similar filter rules). You can read up on the specifics near the end of this thread:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgr ... qXws2fd6Bo
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby BigDXLT » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:14 pm

Been following it all day. What a strange bug!
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby McRiot » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:37 pm

Looks like the bug has been fixed, played on our server for awhile without issue
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. Help!!

Postby Faust » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:48 pm

McRiot wrote:Looks like the bug has been fixed, played on our server for awhile without issue


Sounds good. I'll test for the bug again in the afternoon tomorrow. If all goes well I'll re-enable DAK.
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Re: Major bugs when playing only on OldF server. update: Fix

Postby Faust » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:51 am

McRiot was correct, it looks like these particular set of bugs have been resolved! I can now use my direct team join binds without issue, and send chat messages of 3 characters or less and still chat continuously :) DAK is now enabled. As usual, please report any issues with the server, and make sure every game is a good one!
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