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Postby Faust » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:25 pm

Boxing week has finally come, and at last I no longer have to suffer with the abysmal frame rates I've been encountering in NS2, PS2, and Crysis 2.

Here's what I got:

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NCIX Gaming Bundle Deal Intel Core i5 3570K Quad Core & ASUS P8Z77-V Lk SLI DDR3 Motherboard
72062 $313.99
  1 x Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail
  1 x ASUS P8Z77-V Lk ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA3 SLI DVI HDMI DP USB3.0 Motherboard
  1 x FREE Intel 12 X 18 Inch Unlock The Power Within Gaming Mouse Pad Surface *Intel Promo Only*

Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 XMP Dual Channel Memory Kit
57869 $39.99

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120mm
64385 $27.99

LG GH24NS72 24X SATA Internal DVD Writer Black OEM
76514 $9.99


I'm saddened that I have to part with my two IDE optical drives, for ten dollars for a replacement SATA drive, I won't miss my IDE drives too much. I'm also dismayed that I couldn't find a socket 1155-compatible bracket for my scythe ninja 2 heatsink. I'm hoping the cooler master heatsink is a comparable replacement. I'm still not sure if I'm just going to stick with the stock heatsink and fan, but I am hoping the larger 120mm fan is quieter then the presumably smaller fan on the stock heatsink. I do believe this is the case.

Overall I'm pretty excited to start working on this new build. Did anyone else profit well from the current boxing week ads?
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Faust » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:28 pm

I'm still a bit uncertain if I want to swap my cpu/mobo bundle for this one:

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=77514&vpn=Z77%20Extreme4%20%26%20BX80637I53570K&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1033

The Asrock one seems to be just as good, plus it has LGA 775 mount points around the CPU socket, so I could use my scythe ninja 2 on it without purchasing a mounting bracket (which seems no longer available). However I'm not sure how easy it is to pull out my scythe ninja heatsink off of my current motherboard...

Edit: Cancel that! The Asrock bundle is nearly $40 more then the one I already bought. I think I'll stick with my current arrangement.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Zenbu » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:52 am

Sweet deal. And holy crap, IDE cables? Thought we were out of the bad old days of computing... :wink:

I've been seeing the hyper 212 all over the place and it seems a competent cooler. You keeping your current GPU, or looking at a new one as well?

I'm actually in the same boat as you at the moment, my trinity powered comp was a complete disappointment, fraught with immature drivers which caused horrendous microstuttering or other random graphical errors - if it even worked at all. But that's another story. Next setup, I am going full insanity. No more Mr. Nice guy. That and I miss NS2 already...
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Canuck148 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:02 am

Here is the rig I bought from NCIX couple months ago.

ASUS P8Z77-V Pro LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DisplayPort USB3.0 Motherboard $199.99
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid-Tower Gaming Case ATX 4X5.25 6X3.5INT USB 1394 No PS Black $129.99
Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked Quad Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.5GHZ Ivy Bridge 8MB Retail $329.99
Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H40 High Performance CPU Cooler System LGA1366 1155 AM3 120mm Fan $39.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM $89.99
G.SKILL F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR Sniper SE 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1866 CL9-10-9-28 1.5V Memory Kit $48.99

I love the ASUS board with its "Auto Tune" over clocking. It lets you easily and safely over clock your CPU and Ramm. When you over clock, you get to decide how far to push it. I over clocked the CPU to 4.2 GHZ and the Ramm to 2200 (medium over clocking setting), runs very stable with no over heating issues. Not sure if any of this helps you decide, but I have been very happy with my purchase.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Faust » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:43 am

Zenbu: I'm a stickler for the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it." Up until a year and a half ago, I was regularly using a cellular phone with a monochrome screen :) It hurts me to ditch fully functional devices, but that's the nature of technology. It's nice to hear some positive feedback on the cooler from someone I know. Sounds like it should work out nicely. Sorry to hear you have to upgrade so soon... how old is your current build!? I swore your current config is only a couple years old? I'm keeping my current GPU. It's an AMD HD6870, and still seems to perform quite nicely for games optimized for a GPU.

Canuck: That's a nice build man! Went all out with the i7 I see. How's CPU cooler working out? I've never worked with water cooling before. The auto-tune software was one of the reasons why I went with the Asus bundle. According to the review at HardOCP, the asus motherboards are one of the easiest brands to OC right now, due to the auto-tune software.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Canuck148 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:22 pm

I love the water cooling, very quiet and with the closed loop system, no need to ever add water. Also, there is no cumbersome heat sink clogging up the airflow in the case. I would recommend it highly.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Faust » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:49 pm

So it's pretty quiet then? I've heard the fan on the radiators can get pretty noisy with some of those configs.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Furious Gorge » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:41 pm

What graphics cards are you all running?
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Faust » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:26 am

I'm running an AMD HD6870.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Canuck148 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:59 am

I'm using a 1 GB AMD HD5700 from my old rig. I've been looking at a 2 GB HD 7870 for $200 at NCIX, which I will probably upgarde too in the next few days.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Plan 9 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:34 am

Still using a Nividia Geforce 8800 GT.

(I haven't upgraded my rig since 2008)

Time for an upgrade? :)
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Faust » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:40 am

Now's the best time Plan 9! Boxing week sales are still going. Unless of course you live in one of those other countries that don't partake in the boxing day/week goodness.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Niteowl » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:14 pm

Plan 9 wrote:Still using a Nividia Geforce 8800 GT.

(I haven't upgraded my rig since 2008)

Time for an upgrade? :)

That's perversely impressive.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby BigDXLT » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:35 pm

Plan 9 wrote:Still using a Nividia Geforce 8800 GT.

(I haven't upgraded my rig since 2008)

Time for an upgrade? :)


Ha! I'm running that card too. I could upgrade components, but I just want to hold out and replace the whole machine.
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Re: Boxing week - computer upgrade

Postby Furious Gorge » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:37 pm

Canuck148 wrote:I'm using a 1 GB AMD HD5700 from my old rig. I've been looking at a 2 GB HD 7870 for $200 at NCIX, which I will probably upgarde too in the next few days.


Canuck: You might already be looking at this one, but if not, consider it!
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/ncix-pow ... a-1280279/

In any case, I thought I'd share with you my latest experiment/findings with NS2 and computer rigs.

I was about to buy the card I recommended above because I thought my CPU (i5-750 running OC'ed at 3.9Ghz) was sufficiently providing enough processing power for NS2 which is known to be a CPU dependent game, so therefore I must be GPU limited. I was running an old ATI 5850 on 1280x720 with everything on low, and I was getting okay fps - average 60 fps, with it dropping to about 30 fps in late game with fighting or lots of structures.

I've been following many threads on the Unknown Worlds forums ever since the beta builds to figure out how best to spend my money for better performance, which is why I OC'd my i5-750. Luckily, I re-read some of the posts when I came across one important thing...

When running "r_stats 1", the 2nd line is "Waiting for GPU". If that is not "0", then you are GPU-limited. I was not GPU limited at 1280x720.

When running full 1080p (1920x1080), I am severely GPU limited, more likely due to memory bandwidth of the GPU at high resolutions. But not at lower resolutions... so by that reasoning, I was definitely CPU limited.

Chatting with BigD a couple of nights ago in game, we both remarked how we would want new systems, but finances have to come into play. Then he said an important line -- he was kinda hoping his system would die and that would be a good enough excuse to buy a new system.

So, I thought, why not... let's OC my CPU even more, and if my system fries, it's time for a new one. I managed to bump up my CPU to 4.2Ghz. It's supposed to be easy for the i5-750 (and I have a nice CPU cooler), but I guess my batch is bad. I'm pumping up some high voltages just to keep fairly stable.

BUT, it's worth it! It's amazing how much difference 300 Mhz makes (from 3.9Ghz to 4.2Ghz)!

I am now running at 1600x900 (texture high; AA on; AF on) my average FPS is 80, with it dropping to maybe about mid 50s in late game/entity-heavy rooms. It's making a world of difference with aiming (and on a side note, it feels like you kill faster with an lmg when you have higher FPS... which some on the UW forums have given some explanation to that I don't quite remember).

And, I was amazed to see on the graphics quality I was missing out with high textures/AA/AF! Explosions look so much prettier! :)

Anyway, hope this helps someone a little.
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